{"id":2190,"date":"2026-03-14T06:43:36","date_gmt":"2026-03-14T06:43:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/?p=2190"},"modified":"2026-03-15T10:27:53","modified_gmt":"2026-03-15T10:27:53","slug":"josef-ou-joseph","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/josef-ou-joseph\/","title":{"rendered":"Josef eller Josef?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L&rsquo;orthographe correcte du pr\u00e9nom du futur Consul G\u00e9n\u00e9ral de Su\u00e8de et Norv\u00e8ge \u00e9tait-elle Josef (en Su\u00e9dois) ou Joseph (en Fran\u00e7ais) ? Quelle importance me direz-vous et pourquoi cet article inutile ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Certains registres le mentionnent avec l&rsquo;orthographe su\u00e9doise, d&rsquo;autres fran\u00e7aise, mais c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;acte de naissance qui nous apporte la r\u00e9ponse. Ses parents, Johan Peter (1767-1839) et Inga N\u00e4sbom (1776-1852), avaient choisi Joseph. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"197\" src=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-1024x197.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2191\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-1024x197.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-300x58.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-768x148.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-1536x295.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-2048x394.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-18x3.jpg 18w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-1320x254.jpg 1320w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-zoom-350x67.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Registre des naissances, Stockholm le 2 janvier 1809. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Naissance : jour 2 janvier 1809 &#8211; P\u00e8re : Kamerareren Johan Peter Kuhlman, n\u00e9 1767 &#8211; M\u00e8re : Inga N\u00e4sbom, 22 ans (erreur dans le registre il faut lire 32 ans) &#8211; Enfant : Joseph [Kuhlman] &#8211; Parrains\/marraines : Groshandlare [n\u00e9gociant] Dan Schloss, Johan Bolander, Anna Lundstr\u00f6m (?), Fru Christina Jyrwald.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En Su\u00e8de \u00e0 cette \u00e9poque, Josef est la forme courante dans les registres paroissiaux su\u00e9dophones. L&rsquo;utilisation de Joseph (avec le ph) dans ce registre de 1809 est notable car elle souligne une influence de langue fran\u00e7aise, pratiqu\u00e9e de longue date dans la famille, voire wallonne (via la famille de Besche que j&rsquo;\u00e9voquerais prochainement). Le choix de \u00ab\u00a0Joseph\u00a0\u00bb (et non Josef) pour nommer son fils en 1809 pourrait refl\u00e9ter la conscience de l&rsquo;h\u00e9ritage wallon\/fran\u00e7ais de la famille Kuhlman \u2014 les De Besche \u00e9tant d&rsquo;origine wallonne francophone \u00e9tablis en Su\u00e8de depuis le XVIIe si\u00e8cle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"687\" src=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-1024x687.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2193\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-1024x687.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-768x515.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-1536x1030.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-2048x1374.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-1320x886.jpg 1320w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/acte-de-naissance-de-Joseph-Kuhlman-en-1809-350x235.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"297\" height=\"186\" src=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/censu-maison-Johan-Peter-Kuhlman-1825.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2213\" style=\"width:320px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/censu-maison-Johan-Peter-Kuhlman-1825.png 297w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/censu-maison-Johan-Peter-Kuhlman-1825-18x12.png 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 297px) 100vw, 297px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les registres officiels Su\u00e9dois utiliseront toujours la forme telle que d\u00e9clar\u00e9e sur l&rsquo;acte de naissance, comme sur ce recensement de 1825 ou encore ce registre des diplomates \u00e9dit\u00e9 en 1909.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"728\" height=\"625\" src=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/Konsulat-historik.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2216\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/Konsulat-historik.png 728w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/Konsulat-historik-300x258.png 300w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/Konsulat-historik-14x12.png 14w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/Konsulat-historik-350x300.png 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 728px) 100vw, 728px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Liste des Consuls et Consuls G\u00e9n\u00e9raux \u00e0 Alger de 1729 \u00e0 1907. Source \u00ab\u00a0Kommerskollegium och Riksens St\u00e4nders Manufaktur Kontor samt Konsulstaten\u00a0\u00bb \u00e9dit\u00e9 en 1907.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"434\" height=\"309\" src=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/mariage-joseph-Kuhlman-et-marie-pauline-carraux-1861-Alger.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2199\" style=\"width:320px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/mariage-joseph-Kuhlman-et-marie-pauline-carraux-1861-Alger.png 434w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/mariage-joseph-Kuhlman-et-marie-pauline-carraux-1861-Alger-300x214.png 300w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/mariage-joseph-Kuhlman-et-marie-pauline-carraux-1861-Alger-18x12.png 18w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/mariage-joseph-Kuhlman-et-marie-pauline-carraux-1861-Alger-350x249.png 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 434px) 100vw, 434px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bien s\u00fbr dans les registres fran\u00e7ais, tels que celui d&rsquo;Alger lors de son mariage avec Marie Pauline Carraux, le 22 septembre 1862 il est \u00e9crit Joseph, le pr\u00e9nom de son p\u00e8re \u00e9tait m\u00eame orthographi\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0Jean Pierre\u00a0\u00bb au lieu de Johan Peter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais cela n&#8217;emp\u00eachait pas Joseph de signer lui-m\u00eame Josef comme le montre cette lettre \u00e9crite \u00e0 sa s\u0153ur, en fran\u00e7ais de surcro\u00eet, en 1866.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"644\" src=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-1024x644.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-1024x644.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-300x189.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-768x483.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-1536x966.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-2048x1287.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-1320x830.jpg 1320w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/zoom-lettre-de-josef-a-ingeborg-1866-350x220.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Extrait d&rsquo;une lettre de Josef Kuhlman \u00e0 sa s\u0153ur Ingeborg vivant \u00e0 Norrk\u00f6ping et dat\u00e9e d&rsquo;Alger le 26 juin 1866. Archives Royales de Su\u00e8de.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">De m\u00eame dans ses nombreux articles publi\u00e9s dans les journaux Su\u00e8dois de l&rsquo;\u00e9poque, il utilisera toujours la forme su\u00e9doise de son pr\u00e9nom. Avec un f&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"403\" height=\"379\" src=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/article-sundsvallsposten-11-11-1875-Joseph-Kuhlman.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/article-sundsvallsposten-11-11-1875-Joseph-Kuhlman.png 403w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/article-sundsvallsposten-11-11-1875-Joseph-Kuhlman-300x282.png 300w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/article-sundsvallsposten-11-11-1875-Joseph-Kuhlman-13x12.png 13w, https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/article-sundsvallsposten-11-11-1875-Joseph-Kuhlman-350x329.png 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 403px) 100vw, 403px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Journal \u00ab\u00a0Sundsvallsposten, le 11 novembre 1875.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Curieux cette habitude d&rsquo;\u00e9crire en fran\u00e7ais \u00e0 des membres de sa famille proche tout en privil\u00e9giant l&rsquo;orthographe Su\u00e9doise de son pr\u00e9nom, comme une h\u00e9sitation entre deux nationalit\u00e9s. Ou repr\u00e9sentait-il tout naturellement une synth\u00e8se entre deux histoires, deux cultures ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J&rsquo;utiliserai donc la forme \u00ab\u00a0Josef\u00a0\u00bb comme semblait le souhaiter mon arri\u00e8re-arri\u00e8re-arri\u00e8re grand-p\u00e8re&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L&rsquo;orthographe correcte du pr\u00e9nom du futur Consul G\u00e9n\u00e9ral de Su\u00e8de et Norv\u00e8ge \u00e9tait-elle Josef (en Su\u00e9dois) ou Joseph (en Fran\u00e7ais) ? Quelle importance me direz-vous et pourquoi cet article inutile ? Certains registres le mentionnent avec l&rsquo;orthographe su\u00e9doise, d&rsquo;autres fran\u00e7aise, mais c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;acte de naissance qui nous apporte la r\u00e9ponse. Ses parents, Johan Peter (1767-1839) &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/josef-ou-joseph\/\" class=\"more-link\">Forts\u00e4tt l\u00e4sa <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Josef eller Josef?<\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[32,33],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2190","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-algerie","category-enigmes"],"aioseo_notices":[],"uagb_featured_image_src":{"full":false,"thumbnail":false,"medium":false,"medium_large":false,"large":false,"1536x1536":false,"2048x2048":false,"trp-custom-language-flag":false,"post-thumbnail":false,"mailpoet_newsletter_max":false,"woocommerce_thumbnail":false,"woocommerce_single":false,"woocommerce_gallery_thumbnail":false},"uagb_author_info":{"display_name":"etienne.laude@yahoo.fr","author_link":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/author\/etienne-laudeyahoo-fr\/"},"uagb_comment_info":0,"uagb_excerpt":"L&rsquo;orthographe correcte du pr\u00e9nom du futur Consul G\u00e9n\u00e9ral de Su\u00e8de et Norv\u00e8ge \u00e9tait-elle Josef (en Su\u00e9dois) ou Joseph (en Fran\u00e7ais) ? Quelle importance me direz-vous et pourquoi cet article inutile ? Certains registres le mentionnent avec l&rsquo;orthographe su\u00e9doise, d&rsquo;autres fran\u00e7aise, mais c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;acte de naissance qui nous apporte la r\u00e9ponse. Ses parents, Johan Peter (1767-1839)&hellip;","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2190","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2190"}],"version-history":[{"count":25,"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2190\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2256,"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2190\/revisions\/2256"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2190"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2190"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kuhlmansaga.com\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2190"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}